Conflicts between science and religion

Science is on the march . Sometimes it looks like way back in the day when time wasn't like is today of Copernicus . This is incredibly exciting news . http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091113/ap_on_sc/us_sci_shoot_the_moon;_ylt=AjX6bUbR9mM27e47C23zHu_gtY54

Dialogue is the goal . Understanding , listening and communicating the vehicle . Removing our ego's ( flesh ) . It is a challenge for every human I have ever dealt with especially myself . To answer your question CIAK Said: As a believer the notion of God becomes a challenge for me . In the sense I struggle to see He exist . To get myself out of the way listen with that inner voice . My trauma's have a way of making a lot of noise and distract me from seeing God and hearing Him . Maybe not so with you . " i dunno " B) ;) :unsure: :) :) B)

I'm not attempting to proselytize you or anybody else,its YOUR choice,you say you are a believer,well why you f'n around with all these crazy believes that non-believers believe,and NO i'm not a end-times christian,i'm day by day otherwise how would The Father use me...?and hijackin the thread...have you read some of the questions??

You know kage I guess I misunderstood you . You are attempting proselytize me or anyone that may be in eyesight of this thread . That wasn't the purpose of the thread . High jacking a topic . I'm guilty of the same type of behaviors . I just don't want the topic to run that way . Would you define yourself as a eschatological christian ??

The Milky Way awesome..........................................................http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/04/article-1225129-0713EA460

No He doesnt worry,but He does care. ;)

Don't worry Ciak. He doesn't. :laugh:

CIAK Said: As a believer the notion of God becomes a challenge for me . In the sense I struggle to see He exist .

I was trying to answer this ?, if ya dont see that weell...i dunno..maybe reread my post..

Are you asking me about the contrast between "transcendental" and the "comparative" theories of salvation ? What the clarifying or useful distinctions are in an effort to understand the origins or relationships to me ? I'm not sure I understand the questions you asked me or if it was a question . Am I seeing a bit of manipulation to steer the subject ? No offence . What are you asking me ??

Ciak this is were you need faith,if you are a believer but have seen no evidence of The Father,you need to go to your prayer closet and stay there until you get an answer.And who says we dont have to pay attention to problems in life?The difference is for believers is we can do it thru Christ who gives us the peace,strengh,and courage to get thru it,

The law reveals the mind of God, The prophets too made clear His will; But Christ alone brings life and peace, His words our deepest needs fulfill-D de Hann

What understanding do you have of the salvation of your soul? The work of salvation means that in your real life things are dramatically changed. You no longer look at things in the same way. Your desires are new and the old things have lost their power to attract you. One of the tests for determining if the work of salvation in your life is genuine is— has God changed the things that really matter to you? If you still yearn for the old things, it is absurd to talk about being born from above— you are deceiving yourself. If you are born again, the Spirit of God makes the change very evident in your real life and thought. And when a crisis comes, you are the most amazed person on earth at the wonderful difference there is in you. There is no possibility of imagining that you did it. It is this complete and amazing change that is the very evidence that you are saved.

As a believer the notion of God becomes a challenge for me . In the sense I struggle to see He exist . Because I can say the word "God", some might conclude that a singular essence or thing called "God" actually does exists. I could spend a life trying to figure out how to convince you what the abstract idea of "God" really is. The hypocrisy would be , fail to pay much attention to the problems of living as I believe in the world. I think this is what nonbelievers sees in Christians and or other faiths , Christians have a very convenient target on them at the moment unfortunately

CIAK Said: The question I have if I didnt beleive would be why does anyone want to convince me there is GOD . Why is it so important ???

Salvation thru Jesus Christ..period

The question I have if I didn't beleive would be " why does anyone want to convince me there is GOD . Why is it so important ???

Everytime i wake up with breath..evidence Everytime i see good done for someone..evidence Everytime i dont crave the "bottle"..evidence Everytime i dont wake up in jail..evidence Everytime i see or read about someone who would be the last person to talk about Jesus,talking about Him..evidence Everytime i see athesists,mormons,JW's,islams,etc etc come to Jesus..evidence Everytime i look at Creation in general..evidence And just what He has done in my life..I believe..boy do I believe!That is Evidence.. B)

Is There a God? This article is very insightful:

By Marilyn Adamson

Proof of God . Just once wouldn't you love for someone to simply show you the evidence for God's existence? No arm-twisting. No statements of, "You just have to believe." Well, here is an attempt to candidly offer some of the reasons which suggest that God exists. http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html?gclid=CLu-kquq-p0CFSnKsgodITQWqQ