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Conflicts between science and religion

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November 15, 2009 at 5:33 p.m.

kage

If ya really understand why Jesus went to the cross for us alls you can do is Praise Him,thats all you want to do and also, There IS no Good News if ya dont preach it.

November 15, 2009 at 5:28 p.m.

kage

Egg any believer in Christ has the authority to baptize in the Father Holy Spirit and the Son,that is scriture that is part of the commission.

November 15, 2009 at 3:09 p.m.

dennis

Kage, not much of an answer,but no offense taken. I understand where you are coming from. Just go easy on the scripture. Try using your own words. That cut and paste scripture stuff really turns people off.

Egg, Do you ever listen to RadioLab. I think its WNYC. I heard a good story recently about baboons, a transgender mayor in Oregon, domestication of foxes and the possibility that someday man may be a little less "aggressive".

Ciak, I agree, won't read that scripture c&p.

November 15, 2009 at 2:14 p.m.

copperman

Fair enough Ezekiel 33:6 “‘Now as regards the watchman, in case he sees the sword coming and he actually does not blow the horn and the people itself gets no warning at all and a sword comes and takes away from them soul, for its own error it itself must be taken away, but its blood I shall ask back from the hand of the watchman himself.’ 7 “Now as regards you, O son of man, a watchman is what I have made you to the house of Israel, and at my mouth you must hear [the] word and give them warning from me. 8 When I say to someone wicked, ‘O wicked one, you will positively die!’ but you actually do not speak out to warn the wicked one from his way, he himself as a wicked one will die in his own error, but his blood I shall ask back at your own hand. Acts 20:26 Hence I call YOU to witness this very day that I am clean from the blood of all men, 27 for I have not held back from telling YOU all the counsel of God.

November 15, 2009 at 1:05 p.m.

egg

"And Jesus approached and spoke to them" So which of these eleven was Kage? This gives Kage authority to baptize Dennis or to presume knowledge through some simple powers of "deduction" (that the absence of something proves the existence of another) that he is in tacit consort with the devil ?

Less than four hundred years ago England was a police state with a binding national religion. This religion changed four times in twelve years. It is estimated that over seventy thousand people were executed during the reign of Henry VIII alone. Shakespeare's cousin was hung, drawn, and quartered merely for ministering privately to the Catholic faithful . Others were executed for refusing to renounce their new faith that offered no allegiance to the Pope in Rome. All of these people believed in the same God, the same Jesus, the same Bible, and the same Holy Spirit. This, then, is the epitome of a house divided against itself. Can anyone spell 'demon?'

The simple statement, offered in response to a direct question from an interrogator that "I do not believe" is neither speaking against the Holy Spirit nor the Son of Man nor is it proof either de facto or direct of any spell cast by any man, God, demon, or entity of any kind whatsoever.

We are never more than a sliding glass door away from bloodletting and I will restate it now...if you wish to sing God's praise then be my guest, but there is NO authority given to unleash this other argument.

November 15, 2009 at 9:02 a.m.

kage

BIBLE=Basic-Instructions-Before-Leaving-Earth Yes i read it all,example-the 2 verses above was an attempt to answer Egg on his previous post about "authorization"and we do have "freewill"none of these verses are enforced,it is your choice to follow or not,i mean 10yrs ago i would have been the last person to follow them,i mean hell i use to use bible paper to roll smokes and other smokables in the joint,but when i accepted Him into my life,i dunno He changed something in me and now i just want to share this FREE gift from God,it is for everybody,but i'll be blunt,you wont know until you try..and yes i am a beginner at preachin the Word but its something you just know that you know.And just for your info Ciak,I am not hideing behind scripture..it IS the basis of my believes so yea i'm gonna go to it once in awhile..

November 15, 2009 at 8:32 a.m.

CIAK

Ok guys , I need to ask , please , please answer this honestly if it is possible . How many of you when you read this actually finish the scripture . For me I almost roll my eyes in the back of my head and glaze over . It as if the Pharisees and Sadducee's are attempting to trick us in their legalize . Solo Scripture's understand what I'm saying . Where did freewill go ?? Please if you must let God speak to peoples heart . That small still voice in side most humans not this bantering of I know scripture . Please stop it . Speak from who you are . Hunkering down behind the wall of scripture ? If you want to speak to be understood talk from yourself .

November 15, 2009 at 7:36 a.m.

kage

1Peter 5:8-9 "Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that your brothers throughout the world are undergoing the same kind of sufferings."

James 4:7.."Resist the "father of lies" and he will flee from you",Thru Christ,these are just a couple verses for the Authorization,we need to be watchful and speak up otherwise how do ppl know..

November 15, 2009 at 7:00 a.m.

copperman

Mat.28:18 And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” For those who have studied the Bible(and I mean deeply, not just attend church on sunday)Know God real. The fulfillment of prophecy's foretold hundred's of years in advance gives evidence of divine origin. The bible told of many scientific facts that were scoffed at but latter proven true by science, so how did the bible writer know without divine inspiration. For hundreds of years man thought the earth was flat and being held up by a turtle, but the bible told us thousands of years before it was round and hung upon nothing Job 26:7He is stretching out the north over the empty place, Hanging the earth upon nothing; In the eighth century B.C.E., when the prevailing view was that the earth was flat, centuries before Greek philosophers theorized that the earth likely was spherical, and thousands of years before humans saw the earth as a globe from space, the Hebrew prophet Isaiah stated with remarkable simplicity: “There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth.” (Isaiah 40:22) The Hebrew word chugh, here translated “circle,” may also be rendered “sphere.”3 Other Bible translations read, “the globe of the earth” (Douay Version) and “the round earth.”—Moffatt. The Bible writer Isaiah avoided the common myths about the earth. Instead, he penned a statement that was not threatened by the advances of scientific discovery.

November 14, 2009 at 9:25 p.m.

kage

You mean i should water it down Egg?? I'll say one thing,it aint God telling him that he doesnt need Him.

"You are not authorized to be the instrument of fire. So don't go there."

Who says this Egg?

November 14, 2009 at 9:14 p.m.

egg

"Because the father of lies has blinded ya.."

I believe you mean no harm, rather intend to good, but there are a couple of small things that need to be pointed out. 'ya' equals 'you.' Literally. 'Father of lies' equals the devil, satan. Literally. Therefore your sentence, stripped of its cozy informality literally reads, 'You, Dennis, are under the spell of the Devil.'

Either you need to refresh your memory or learn a little about history.

I strongly urge you to cleave to your faith, from which you will continue to benefit but immediately abandon this other invasive pursuit which brings nothing but discredit and misery. When you accuse someone of being under the spell of the devil you are playing with fire. You are not authorized to be the instrument of fire. So don't go there.

November 14, 2009 at 7:16 p.m.

kage

dennis Said: Why is it that I have no use or need for any god?

Because the father of lies has blinded ya..

November 14, 2009 at 7:14 p.m.

kage

"Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, 10 nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom."

Its true if ya die living this kinda lifestyle you will not inherit the Kingdom,this is why Jesus died on the cross for us...because No one can live up to Gods standards but thru Christ we can..

November 14, 2009 at 6:31 p.m.

dennis

Why is it that I have no use or need for any god?

And why do roofing products keep changing, but the basics behind proper installation do not?

November 14, 2009 at 5:14 p.m.

CIAK

OK Ok now who isn't or hasn't been guilty of any of those charges . The particular brand of religion tells ( you ) how to deal with your conscious . That small voice is or has been in each one of us . If we want to get into just a discussion of religion . The Koran says if you commit jihad it is the highest of what God wants you to do . You will go to heaven . Buddha says you are reincarnated and on on it goes ........ each saying it has the right to GOD blessing . Perhaps CS Lewis would be a good start . Science on the other hand tries to figure out how things work and how to make a better tomorrow through science . I am of the belief religion has the same roll and if practiced correctly adds to knowledge not ignorance . That is in an ideal world that doesn't exsist for either side.


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