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jimAKAblue Said:

I would be happy to do this roof for $1900. If I have to haul the materials to the dump, I would like to ask for an extra $150.

Please let me know if my pricing is acceptable or not. I always run into prime contractors that say my pricing is too high and that they have guys that will do the job for some ridiculous price like $30-$35 per square. I always wonder if these are the crews that do some of the jobs I have bid lately. I bid a job in Broken Arrow that literally just had shingles on bare decking(A large, nice Home). No felt or drip edge at all. In addition, the top roof had guttering discharging to the patio roof. It washed out all the gravel from the shingles. I also see houses all the time that are relayers with no felt under the top layer. I wont even do a relayer but if I were, I would certainly add some felt. I also take my waste shingles to approved landfills and carry a legitimate/verifiable 500k general liability policy for Residential Roofing.

Please let me know, we are wide open next week as of now...

Here's how I interpret his message:

Jim,

Here is my price. I don't use a systematic price sheet and therefore I just round everything up to a nice even $100 or $50 number. I figure: "If I throw enough "stuff" against the wall, some will stick!".

If you don't use my price as your barameter, you are guilty of doing shoddy work.

I don't have any work lined up, even though I'm in the middle of a billion dollar hail area and I have no idea why. I have questionable sales skills but that probably doesn't have anything to do with it...

Signed: Sammy Subcontractor.

FYI. I'm using this basic roof sketch to source possible roofing subcontractors. I don't really have a need for another subcontractor but I'd like a competent back up.

Here is one response to my request: Jim,

I would be happy to do this roof for $1900. If I have to haul the materials to the dump, I would like to ask for an extra $150.

Please let me know if my pricing is acceptable or not. I always run into prime contractors that say my pricing is too high and that they have guys that will do the job for some ridiculous price like $30-$35 per square. I always wonder if these are the crews that do some of the jobs I have bid lately. I bid a job in Broken Arrow that literally just had shingles on bare decking(A large, nice Home). No felt or drip edge at all. In addition, the top roof had guttering discharging to the patio roof. It washed out all the gravel from the shingles. I also see houses all the time that are relayers with no felt under the top layer. I won't even do a relayer but if I were, I would certainly add some felt. I also take my waste shingles to approved landfills and carry a legitimate/verifiable 500k general liability policy for Residential Roofing.

Please let me know, we are wide open next week as of now...

Please feel free to critique his presentation and sales approach. I personally would NOT send in an estimate to an email request but if I did, I'd certainly not defend my prices the way he has.

I've rethought my original post. Forget the respectful request lol. Lets just duke it out! :P

I can't seem to upload the sketch pic or pdf.

....tryin' again.... http://www.rooferscoffeeshop.com/rcs/users/jimAKAblue/Roof Sketch.pdf

Edit/update/: I figured out what the problem was. My file name include a space, which works fine in Vista. It doesn't work on the net. I renamed the file and it worked.