German Style, clay tile roof with counter batten, copper gutter with mountain roof hanger, copper down spouts, and torch down

The other thing I was thinking was weight. You took off shingles and put on tile which weighs 4to5 times more. Was that considered?

Old School Said: Obviously you guys have never tried to install a clay tile roof. $18,000 would buy the trim for that project. My guess is that he had about $55,000 in materials. Those are counter-battens on the roof that allow the air to move beneath the tile. The copper work is superb.

In my opinion, a roof is worth whatever you can get for it. If you are very good and do top quality work...and you do the work and dont sub it out to every tom dick and harry.. or pablo or Raul, you have a right to show off a bit and make a ton of money. Nothing to split when you do the work yourself. Nice job Martin.

Yeah, obviously. :laugh: Only installed about 100,000 squares in a ten year period. Mostly concrete though. The most I ever got for a clay job (2 piece San Valle, red onion blend smoke pattern) was about $500. sq. labor and material. 5/12 pitch, 3 ply glass mopped underlay, anchor and wire fastened). That was probably at least 20 years ago though, so it's somewhat irrelevant to this discussion.

BTW, there's (obviously) no way you could possibly know how much this material costs without knowing the brand and source. Some clay tile is barely $100. sq for the field tile.

However, I totally agree that a roof is worth whatever you can sell it for. Especially if you are considering it in terms of longevity. I think most roofs get installed for far too little in that regard.

Robert Said: We installed those on a church in Thibodaux Louisiana about 8 years ago,siplast sent out a photoghragher to take pics and it was profiled in a magazine.The roof went straight up and then round at the top,133 squares of the tosite shingles.Thier so fragile,that copper laminate is very thin.Gustav blew about three tabs off the roof,which is good considering its a big wall facing the gulf.

We installed those on a church in Thibodaux Louisiana about 8 years ago,siplast sent out a photoghragher to take pics and it was profiled in a magazine.The roof went straight up and then round at the top,133 squares of the tosite shingles.Thier so fragile,that copper laminate is very thin.Gustav blew about three tabs off the roof,which is good considering its a big wall facing the gulf.

Here is one that I did that was up around $3,500 per sq..new construction. All custom bent flashings and DE (thats me on the brake). So $5,000 per sq is not out of the realm of possibilities.

Sorry this missunderstanding it was not my price !!!!! Some roofer in Boston provide this roof between 120000$ & 160000 $ O N L Y for the labor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I just can't justify the cost."

Maybe you should read the book "Richistan" and find out how the "new rich" think. If you were putting out a similar quality product and went in and "bid" that roof for 90k....they wouldn't hire you. They'd opt for the 180k guy because that's what they do.

$5000.00 a square for labor on that house is just plan robbery. I guess if you can get it good for you. I don't see that house as worth that investment. I've done 20,000 square ft homes that did not cost that much. Heres a question what ounce cooper did you use for valleys? The flat roof material is wrong for that kind of project. You have a life time room on the step and a 15/20 year roof on the flat. So in a few years you will have a patch job when you try to replace the flat. Should of been copper. The workmanship is great. I would never take away from that. I just can't justify the cost.

TomB Said: gumption?....would have nothing to de w/gumption....Im in business to provide my clients with the best possible product....quality & value....Thats what Im respected for....not thievery....

Im thinking of opening a gas staiton. It will be a fine gas station. Heck, I may even have attendants wash windhields, check oil & tire pressure, fill the tanks....Im going to charge $ 12.00/gallon....How do you think Ill fare?

Maybe if you'd stop rushing through the job and add a little quality into your finished product, you'll figure out how to get 180k for a roof job.

gumption?....would have nothing to de w/"gumption"....I'm in business to provide my clients with the best possible product....quality & value....That's what I'm respected for....not thievery....

I'm thinking of opening a gas staiton. It will be a fine gas station. Heck, I may even have attendants wash windhields, check oil & tire pressure, fill the tanks....I'm going to charge $ 12.00/gallon....How do you think I'll fare?

TomB Said: WEll....This post certianly was enlightening.....Yeah, we wouldve cleared a kool $120,000, minimum....I suppose we could have stretched it out for several weeks.

And yes, to reiterate....The workmanship does reflect European/across the pond influence.

You'll never clear that amount if you don't have the gumption to ask for it.

I kinda wonder why treated lumber was used for the battens. Maybe there wasn't enough money in the budget LOL? In fact, since the secondary weather barrier is placed below the framing, I would insist on treated lumber to be used everywhere up there if I was spending 180 grand! It would add a couple hundred but, since I'd be a millionaire, I'd splurge.

I really love jobs like that. I think tile and stone coateds are my favorites to install. On counter battens are the best too. Love it especially when its a steeper pitch. Can put my bottle a water on the roof w/o it rollin off. ;) You did an excellent job and have great attention to detail i can tell. I love workin with copper.

WEll....This post certianly was enlightening.....Yeah, we would've cleared a kool $120,000, minimum....I suppose we could have stretched it out for several weeks.

And yes, to reiterate....The workmanship does reflect European/across the pond influence.

Nice work. Price is about right. These and slate can last a really long time. I expect my slate roofs to last several generations of owners. This will too. I've never sealed the battens before. I do like the attention to breathability. As for the dormer window, I always take them apart too. Some get a full pan like that one appears to have.

I don't bother bidding or doing those 'quick, get her done fast jobs'. They have little to offer for mental stimulation. :cheer: