#1 Med Shakes_Labor Cost_New Construction

I would like to get some feedback on what others charge for # 1 Med Shake installation Just labor cost for new construction. We start out at around $100.00 a Square for up to 6/12. flashing, ice and water Etc is extra. All materials supplied by builder. We are in the midwest. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.>>>

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Thanks everyone for your input. just for reference How about some input on what you would do Laminates for on this job? (Labor) I'm trying to figure out a cost for my region. Ken@newroofnebraska.com>>>

lanny Said: I think $500 is a bit rich especially on a new construction job. New construction around here is pretty competative and the contractors I bid are tight with money. I just wouldnt get the job at $500. I would do it for $200-250 gladly. I might have to bid the flashing detail T & I as I cannot see how much is involved there. Generally with one helper I try to make $1,000/day labor. I figure my helper gets $250; I get $500 and my company overhead is $250. That is just a rule of thumb I use to bid some jobs. I can generally predict how many days a job will take and I use this formula on occasion when it is too difficult to bid by the square. Between the two of us I cannot see how we could not get on 5 sq/day average even with the cut up. Lanny

Same here They wouldn't even consider $500.00 a square around here. I think I'll loose money if I go any less then $200.00 +extras, flashing, I&W ETC. Thanks for your input.>>>

Located in northeast PA. The more I look at it the more I realize I probably under bid, when you have to go back and install I&S and do all the counter flashing in the brick(I missed that). :ohmy:>>>

Jed Said: Copperman suggests $500sq for all labor costs, then the shakes are $229. That brings the cost to $729 sq.....

Boy I wish we could get that kind of money here. Cooperman where are you located? need a partner :unsure: LOL>>>

wywoody Said: I dont see any counterflashing coming out of the brick, is it there? You mention Ice & Water shield, will you have to pull up the underlayment to install it?

My liability insurance doesnt allow me to work on multifamily, so thats a project I would have had to pass on.

Nope no counter flashing yet, they have built a bunch of these units and none are flashed/counter flashed correctly. that's why they called me ;) Not to mention the crappy facia / soffit work. All of the previous units have leaked or have had blow off due to improper faster length. and yes to properly install I&W the underlayment needs to be dealt with.>>>

Copperman Said: Theres a lot of work on this one. I see several dead end valleys that need metal. You better be way more then $100.00 a square for this one the way its cut up and its also a full 2 storys high or better. I would be at $500.00 for the wood plus labor for the metal work

Thanks for the input, Exactly what I'm after. Anyone else what to chim in? >>>

There's a lot of work on this one. I see several dead end valleys that need metal. You better be way more then $100.00 a square for this one the way it's cut up and it's also a full 2 story's high or better. I would be at $500.00 for the wood plus labor for the metal work>>>

Clover Said: I would like to get some feedback on what others charge for # 1 Med Shake installation Just labor cost for new construction. We start out at around $100.00 a Square for up to 6/12. flashing, ice and water Etc is extra. All materials supplied by builder. We are in the midwest. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

I'm still negotiating this job. Here are pics of front, back. 4 Eyebrows cannot be seed on the front pic How would you bid it? Ken@newroofnebraska.com>>>

Of the total number of domes I've done, the earliest in the mid-seventies, the comp ones outnumber the wood ones about ten to one. They all seem to last about the same amount of time, but they all go well over 20 yrs. My first wood shake job went about thirty. Replaced it not too awfully long ago. I can still hack it, but I'm getting a little too old to be stretching and straining and climbing around all day on them. It's pretty exhausting now. Fortunately I no longer do too many of them. They peaked out in the eighties. I haven't actually seen any new ones going up in a very long time. What has added to their longevity and performance now on the ones I do is that in the last twenty years I have gotten a lot more sophisticated and skilled with sheet metal parts and the whole craft in general so I have a much better grasp of what will wear out, why, and more options to defend against that. The challenges keep me going.>>>

I'm doing one right now, but all we are allowed to use are Class B fire-treated over glasscap. My labor nets out over a thousand a square, but it's a geodesic dome full of extra details. Took over a week just to clad the canopies. I miss the days of wood roofing, the smell, the way they fit, the hand-nailing. Had to recondition my old strippers for it. Regrind and hone the axes. I love it. Once you have it, it's a knack you never completely lose. We're not stick-nailing on this one though. No decent runs on it to get your rhythm up and not enough good places to sit comfortably.>>>

Mr. Robert Allen Zimmerman :

The line, it is drawn, the curse, it is cast The slow one will later be fast And the present now will soon be the past The order is rapidly fading The first one now will later be last For the times, they are a changing

Nough said Dylan>>>

lanny Said: ---We charge around that amount. I dont like putting shakes on that some contactor bought. Usually contractors buy the cheapest garbage on the market. It adds to the labor costs when we have to install lots of pencils. ---I only install shakes that I get from a broker on the Canadian border. 100% edgegrain and most are 2-pack. I also use ASTM liner. It just isnt worth messing around to save only a few bucks. ---Nowadays we usually install CCA treated shakes. Lanny

Care to share that brokers contact info? I'm getting quotes for 80% 2 pack at $229.00>>>

Most felt carries an ASTM #........ ASTM D226 is the good stuff..I believe the thinner stuff is D 4869/something like that. In these parts the term "ASTM felt" is referencing the D226...... We had to special order the D226 when we first arrived here in Colorado, (1992),....The suppliers didn't even stock it or know the difference!!!!!>>>

We used to get ten bucks a square to hand-nail shakes. That included felting, flashing, nailing them on, and clean-up. That was in the early seventies. Still, you could make eighty bucks a day that way which back then was definitely not nothing. Shakes cost about thirty dollars a square. Just about everything has gone up by a factor of ten. There's your hundred. I could live on it.>>>