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MOST COMMON CAUSE OF ROOF LEAKS?

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March 14, 2012 at 1:04 p.m.

vickie

I just read n the internet that the most common cause of residential roof leaks is shingle damage. I disagree. I think the most common cause of roof leaks is from the flashings, roof to wall, backed up gutters and valleys. So who is right, some random article or me? I might add I am not a roofer so tell me roofers what do you think?

October 11, 2017 at 5:53 p.m.

Chuck2

Poor Workmanship! End of story!  :)

October 11, 2017 at 12:16 p.m.

Gman

In-ground pool?

October 11, 2017 at 6:45 a.m.

justinheber

I am having problem with the pool pump from last few weeks, also the slab beside the pool is also leaking. I am thinking to call the leak detection and repair company for help , can anyone here suggest some names of such firms.

March 15, 2012 at 4:01 p.m.

TomB

Flashing issues it is.

wywoody....Most all the correct details have been available & previously practiced...It's just that we, (as an industry), continue to take short-cuts out of greed.

Debris accumulation is dramatically reduced or eliminated, if appropriate flashing/counter-flashing & tile placing techniques are practiced.

Not only tile. Up here in the mountains, most shake tear-offs reveal simple 'L'-metal side-walls...No step flashing!,,,Oh, but it's copper!

A lot of places in the west, still use L-metal w/comp at side-walls. it works w/so little rain/snow.

March 15, 2012 at 11:04 a.m.

vickie

Will a roof leak if its ugly? If it has no granules on it will it still not divert rain? With no granules to protect it, it's still water repellant asphalt or is it water logged paper?

March 15, 2012 at 7:44 a.m.

TomB

Of course w/step-flashing it most-likely wouldn't be an issue.....To reiterate; Your assumption is correct Vickie...Flashing issues are the predominant cause of leaks.

March 15, 2012 at 6:16 a.m.

tinner666

Here's more. Sooooo many dormer sides get closed at the window sill it isn't funny.

I little trimming with the Multi-Master and some more flashing.

March 15, 2012 at 6:07 a.m.

tinner666

"I guess as long as we're assuming premature failure I agree with what has been said already, though nobody but Vickie mentioned clogging of parts. In some tile systems (among others) that's a huge factor." I've had to take many Ludwicki apart and put them back on for that reason. Corners left on valley shingles causing clogs and leaks. Many valley repairs are a matter of just cutting the corners/tips off. :laugh: :huh: Slate debris in keyways. Channel flashing that's closed instead of leaving an inch open for water flow and/or the tops not clipped catching debris.

Incorrect.

Corrected.

March 14, 2012 at 9:21 p.m.

egg

We get a bit of that here with wind claims, Gerry. Wind can blow off shingles pretty well when they are on the south side and have no granules left.

March 14, 2012 at 9:20 p.m.

vickie

RoofGuy - said Rain. Almost made me laugh out loud. :laugh: Rockydog - incorrect installation of roof flashings, etc. is what I meant. I wished I would have saved that article.

March 14, 2012 at 9:16 p.m.

egg

I guess as long as we're assuming premature failure I agree with what has been said already, though nobody but Vickie mentioned clogging of parts. In some tile systems (among others) that's a huge factor.

But, then, as always it comes down to the intent of the question which provoked the discussion in the first place, so if we are speaking literally, and if we ascribe a liberal 30% for roofs which have premature problems, well then the remaining 70% (which presumably go full-term) do seem to fail from damage to the material albeit naturally-occurring damage.

In truth, including all the failures I have ever encountered, most were due to degradation of the material. Nonetheless, I still join everyone else in being suspicious of the original statement, and the greatest likelihood of leaks occurring is in the flashing zones, whether because of defective parts, badly-designed parts, or poorly installed parts, and that includes Rocky's perimeter metal, which is also flashing.

March 14, 2012 at 7:37 p.m.

tinner666

Improper workmanship at penetrations, valleys, walls, etc. Though only water resistant, and not water proof, the shingles themselves don't cause the leaks. Flashings are considered water proof, so they, themselves aren't the problem.

I have today's example right here.

I noticed a curious phenomenom today. Leaves hung on step flashing.

A little probing and I find the counter flashing has been cut and installed so it catchees water and guides it behind the step flashing to cause a leak.Several, in fact.

I cut the tips off squarely to stop this leaker.

March 14, 2012 at 7:15 p.m.

Rockydog

Hey Roofguy, at least we have one smart guy/gal in the group.

March 14, 2012 at 6:42 p.m.

TomB

Your correct Vickie

March 14, 2012 at 4:56 p.m.

Rockydog

Was the question "what caused them" or "where are they from"? :unsure: Flashings don't cause leaks, but thats where they happen.


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