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Metal shingle repair - Possible in the field?

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May 16, 2015 at 10:17 a.m.

clvr83

This guy got a metal shingle(Tamko?) installed about ten years ago by the local lumberyard, they hadn't done one before and can't stop the leak. Been leaking since day 1, or close.

Am I going to be able to use a zip tool and not completely wreck the upper shingle? Stair stepping up the chimney/siding wall seams VERY tedious.

Problems: -Leaking on long side of chimney, but it could possibly be coming from the upper cricket or siding upslope from it. -Skylights leaking slightly in the middle and little bit on both sides. They were replaced in 1995 when he got a new asphalt shingle roof that only lasted ten years. -Decking popped up in two spots, one can be seen to the upper left of the skylights.

I haven't walked the roof yet, too slick. Going back more prepared next week. Will be installing some anchors for him as well.

May 21, 2015 at 7:41 p.m.

egg

As usual in my opinion, seen-it-all has it pretty concisely summed up there.

I love a challenge too, but it has to be accompanied by an underlying conviction that there is a happy ending in sight.

You can talk about the skylight bank alright, but the roof plane seems to cup where it meets the stone and sidewall, the sheathing is buckled, the flashings are all suspect, the field material looks kind of sad and beat and stomped on.

I think it's a tear-off. I've buried myself on stuff like this before. I'm going to take a Darryl stance. Tear it all off and do it right. They won't like it, but they probably don't realize they've already turned cherry-red inside and I wouldn't want to be anywhere near when they flash.

May 21, 2015 at 10:36 a.m.

seen-it-all

"Lawyer and Judge couple"

Better get it right the first time. B)

May 17, 2015 at 9:25 p.m.

clvr83

I think I can manage that woody. Making slope towards the shingles and fit snugly seems a bit difficult though.

Woo, got to love a challenge.

May 17, 2015 at 3:51 p.m.

clvr83

I think they are Anderson windows. The type with the rubber gasket going over whatever flashing is there. They added that top diverter after the leaks started, hoping it was a volume issue.

I was planning on replacing all the flashings, but I'm getting discouraged about getting these shingles apart, especially in a step-pattern. A guy on another forum basically said it wouldn't be fun, and might not work. Same thing here.

I'm going to walk the roof this week so I can get up close and personal with the problems.

May 17, 2015 at 12:55 p.m.

clvr83

U shape going horizontal, do you let it drain in between each one or send it out the ends?

May 17, 2015 at 9:23 a.m.

clvr83

I'll probably make an attempt

"We will bend our our own gutter in the middle for the ganged skylights"

I'm assuming gutter just means big flashing pieces. For a second I pictured something more complicated.

"the cheapest possible product is going on thousands of buildings as we speak."

I just ran a public radio ad for my business. I was thinking about revising it to say "this is a public service anouncement by Clover Roofing: Pole barn roofing is not a life time roof!"

Not sure if that would really help my business though, could be perceived wrong.

May 16, 2015 at 11:04 p.m.

clvr83

OS: The installer(contractor) was a client of his who he was helping with a divorce. They suggested the metal even though they had never installed it. Not that I can blame them for trying something new...

May 16, 2015 at 11:02 p.m.

clvr83

OS: He usually gets the debris cleaned out of the skylight yearly. It's mainly leaking on one side, but does leak some in the middle and has leaked on the other side. I agree about the middle flashing though. Also, very perceptive about the venting. I hadn't attributed that to the decking pop or other issues.

Tom: I keep going back and forth on that. I've never torn off such an expensive roof! Backwards cap: I'm assuming the cricket looks backwards, but it might be the angle. I took that picture with my arm extended around the chimney because I couldn't see the cricket from the ladder.

If I do tear it off, I might suggest Insprire fake slate. I've been wanting to try them out.

edit: Okay, I have torn off that expensive of a roof, just not so new. Forgot about the clay and concrete tiles we have ripped before.

May 16, 2015 at 8:37 p.m.

clvr83

Also, he had the siding removed from the chimney before this and had the stone installed. The weight caused problems with the foundation and he had to pay $15k to get that fixed!

The joys of being a homeowner.

May 16, 2015 at 8:36 p.m.

clvr83

Oh wow, that's a good point about the locks. You can see that a lot of them are dented, too many goobers trying to caulk it. I might have to try that though, because we all know that even a caulk job is much better with the right applicator. That decking pop will have to be addressed, but maybe not this year if I can stop the others without pulling panels.

I know I could buy a Wasco skylight that would be a one shot deal and just flash to the curb, I bet I'd have to set it up there with a boom truck or four guys. Other than that, I would think this would be a standard kit from Anderson/Velux to interconnect.

It would have to be a low pitch cricket, or else your getting a pretty high curb.

Lawyer & judge couple, but I don't care who you are, it sucks to replace an asphalt roof after 10 years, then a metal roof after ten years.

May 16, 2015 at 1:04 p.m.

bdub

Oh boy! My 2cents probably wont help much cause i usually tear off stuff like that. I can say though that i tried to repair some copper shingles similar to those and wasnt able to. I ended up having to take them off and once i did, the foot traffic over the years smashed up the locks on the seams and we couldnt get them to go back together in a way that made us feel comfortable so we replaced them. I was surprised, thought i could do some surgery for sure. Not to say those shingles you dealing with are the same though.

I dont like the flashing detail and not sure it could be done much better. Some of these products are designed in a way that limits our detail options. For the skylights, i would yuck them all out, raise them all up as one enough to get a cricket behind them then close it all in as one. That would take a lot of time and money though. If the budget called for repair on this one id get a couple cases of vulkem.


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