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November 12, 2008 at 12:42 p.m.

chicochica

Some insurance companies still dont want to pay for broken sealant caused by wind damage on shingle roofs. They talk about roofers rippin people off! These homeowners pay premium for years and now cant sell their house because they need a texas windstorm>>>

September 25, 2009 at 11:14 p.m.

Mike M.

Kevin is right on, period.

September 23, 2009 at 4:59 p.m.

robert

If im looking for loose tabs im checking the butt joints as they are always the place that is unsealed on a roof if anything thing is loose,first to go.>>>

September 22, 2009 at 7:39 p.m.

egg

Is this the kevin with the shake roof been gone so long I hardly knew ye? Yo!>>>

September 21, 2009 at 6:00 p.m.

kevin

I humbley dis-agree with all of your assesments. I do not believe the wind either knows or cares if a tab is at the seam or not. If this was simply wind it would have lifted tabs in the middle, and opposite end of the shingle as well. I believe what you are dealing with here is expansion and contraction of the shingle, possibly due to poor ventilation or in a vaulted area, (and I think HAAG would back me up on this). Asphalt shingles will expand as much as 1.5% in length, you cant stretch the shingle, so it pops loose at the logical spot...the end. Manufactures have to balance between a too aggressive seal, and a not aggressive enough seal. If it didn't let loose, it would rip. If there isn't too much dust or dirt, and the seal strip is still intact it should reseal. If it doesn't, it is neither an ins propblem, nor manufacturers problem....it's a homewoners problem because they are responsible for the proper ventilation. Unless the roofer that originally installed the roof has a good relationship with the manufacturer, the owner will be on his own. Now, lets sit back watch you all call me a moron.>>>

September 21, 2009 at 10:43 a.m.

tico

the thing that ins.co's are doing in Texas is jumping on the bandwagon with Texas wind. T/W will not cover any broken seals. theirs A Laew firm in Houston,Clark,Dean &Burnett.they are handling several hundred,if not thousands of claims by now.they will ask you to provide A contract,signed.you then let the H/O know they will be getting A call,then an insp. from an engineer,then CDB will refer you back to them.they will keep you apprised of the case. you may call them and keep tabs also. should this break in favor of H/O's,which they seem confident it will,the H/O may not even be responsible for the deductible. thats what they are hoping for anyways. I do not know the present status of the claim though. the thing about broken seals is the microbules of dust that kicks up,and then is weighted by rain,travels to the roof. finding it's way to the seal of raised shingles. A shingle that is properly adhered cannot be lifted without mechanical deflection,which means you need some type of device to lift it.IE. A flat bar or scraper. when you use either method it is refered to as mechanical damage.it is obvious and the adj. can tell. Wind lift,with the dirt,dust and debris should be considered sufficient damage.yet T/W being the babysitter type ins co. for H/O's that can't afford,or get proper coverage went bankrupt quickly. they were actually waiting for A stimulus package to re inflate their cash base. they actually sent out A memo stating that they would no longer be accepting dirt and debris as sufficient grounds for replacement.this was months after they started denying lift claims. which gave great impetus to the lawsuit. it was like saying to folks,your neighbor was good enough to get coverage for less damage,and now you with similar or greater damage just aren't good enough.that gives credence to A discriminatory aspect to the lawsuit. it makes for A very colorful cross examination and closing argument.it is A bias,and in many cases A social classification in A negative light. >>>

September 16, 2009 at 2:42 p.m.

vickie

Bump>>>

November 18, 2008 at 12:10 p.m.

robert

Most adjusters are not very knowledgeable about the roofs installation process.>>>

November 18, 2008 at 1:11 a.m.

chicochica

Most that are still on are still held by the nails just the sealant..tar strip is unsealed. Sometimes the nails pull through but the shingle is still there. Ya there are jobs where its poor install but the roof is protecting the ins company interest.>>>

November 17, 2008 at 12:57 a.m.

chicochica

most unadhered shingles are only at the seam and always on the same side....directional wind...ie...with 3 tab its every 3'. usually only at the seam. thanks dougger. do elk shingles count since they are now gaf?>>>

November 16, 2008 at 2:26 p.m.

Hilite

There has to be transference present to prove the wind caused the shingles to loose it's seal. In other words there must be proof that the shingles were once sealed.

If you go up on the roof and can lift every tab and there's been no transference the r>>>

November 16, 2008 at 1:26 p.m.

chicochica

The insurance company hired engineers that said they are unsealed because of improper installation not because of wind. Most of the companies are payin it but a couple wont.>>>

November 13, 2008 at 12:37 p.m.

chicochica

Thats exactly right Rg. Debris comes in the shape of many things like dirt, granuals, leaves etc.>>>

November 12, 2008 at 9:28 p.m.

Hilite

You must be talking about transference?>>>

November 12, 2008 at 12:46 p.m.

chicochica

Here is a 20 year shingle with wind lift. >>>


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