English
English
Español
Français

Sign Up for Our E-News!

Join over 18,000 other roofers who get the Week in Roofing for a recap of this week's best industry posts!

Sign Up
Bitec-RepairBoss-Sidebar
Georgia-Pacific - Sidebar Ad - HD ISO
Owens Corning - Sidebar Ad - Roofers Choice Insurance
ABC Supply - Sidebar Ad - Take Control of Your Work Day
Wil-Mar - Sidebar Ad - Pipe Collar
Readyslate Sidebar Ad
English
English
Español
Français

Upgraders Beware: Be Cautious When Removing Old Screw-down Roofs

Roof Hugger Upgraded Roof
July 2, 2023 at 3:00 p.m.

By Dale Nelson, Roof Hugger.  

If you’re thinking about upgrading your screw down roof to a standing seam roof, that’s great! Just beware, because those old screw-down roofs can be, well... screwy.  

The new standing-seam metal roofs are aesthetically pleasing and considered a major upgrade from the old screw-down metal roofs of yesteryear. They also solve many of the problems that the screw-down system caused.  

The screw-down metal roof and wall panel has been the backbone of the metal building 
industry since its inception many decades ago and still represents a significant part of the total 
market. Screw-down panels are lightweight, durable, inexpensive and strong enough to span up to 5’ between structural supports. Screw-down roofs and walls also have a wonderful physical property. The panels can and frequently were used as “diaphragm bracing,” securely holding the buildings’ roof purlins and wall girts in position, adding rigidity to the structure in much the same way drywall strengthens the stud walls it is fastened to. This is a huge material and labor cost saver! The structural purlins are held in position by the panels. The early systems were not without problems however; much of the technology we take for granted today did not exist in the early years of pre-engineered buildings.  

Many roofs installed during the late ‘60s through early 80’s were done so using 10-year life fasteners to secure a 30+ year life roof. The fastener issue seems crazy today given the numerous inexpensive, long-life, weather tight, self-drilling screws available but back when I started in the metal building industry you could have the newly developed “self-drilling” cadmium fasteners or “self-tapping” stainless. Self- tapping meaning you had to pre-drill a hole in the panel and purlin to install it, a much slower and more expensive process. Most of us used the less expensive but (unknown to us at the time) fairly short life cadmium coated fasteners, often never providing the option of a stainless upgrade to our customers. 

Another short coming with screw-down roof panels is that, generally speaking, screw-down panels on metal buildings should be a maximum length of about 80’. Longer roof panel runs frequently suffered rips or slots in the metal caused by expansion and contraction. Metal panels expand and contract at a rate of about 1”/ 100’ of panel run. This is normally absorbed by the back and forth rolling of the roof purlin and some panel bowing but after 80’ or so they can no longer absorb the movement resulting in trauma to the panels and trim.  

Standing seam panels eliminate both of these shortcomings. The panels are attached with “sliding clips” not screws to the structural purlins. The clips are screwed to the purlins and seamed into the side laps of the panels securing them and thus the panels have very few, if any, exposed fasteners. The clips maintain a solid connection with the structure of the building while still allowing the panels to move with expansion and contraction forces without damage. 
This is great news for the building owner providing a more watertight roof, few if any penetrations and expansion and contraction ability. This does come with a catch however; standing seam panels, because they move, do not provide diaphragm strength. The buildings’ roof purlins must have significantly more bridging and bracing to keep them in their correct and upright position. This is automatically taken care of in new building design but when it comes time to reroof an older building, removing the existing screw-down roof could remove the diaphragm bracing it once provided and make the building structurally unsound – yes, that’s bad!  

So how can you upgrade to standing seam roofing? 

  1. Removing your old roof can be still done but a structural engineer must be hired to design the bracing needed to properly support the existing purlins for the new standing seam roof. Properly positioned angle bracing, band strapping or support channels will likely be required. I have heard several horror stories of buildings that shook and rattled in the slightest breeze where an old screw-down roof was removed and a standing seam was installed without re-bracing the purlins. 

  1. Leave the existing roof in place and retrofit on top of the existing roof. This is the 
    easiest and least expensive option and can be accomplished with any one of the 
    following systems:

  • Notched Sub-Purlin Systems: Low profile, framing systems that are cut out to fit over the ribs of the existing panels. System can be designed to strengthen the existing purlins to handle the weight of the new roof system. They can also be ordered in custom heights to provide additional insulation between the old and new roofs. This system is also easily modified to add additional panel support to meet the newer building codes. Tall Clip Standing Seam Systems: Some panel providers and metal building companies have special tall clip systems that allow you to install a new standing seam panel over certain existing screw-down roofs. Hat grid or hybrid Zee and hat framing: Assemblies of hat channels and/or Zee’s create a grid of structural members for the new roof to attach to. 
  • Clip and Angle systems create a line of tall angle clips with another structural angle or Zee attached to the angle clips. 

The retrofit process is not difficult, but the building codes have likely changed since your building was constructed and we must now deal with current code standards. Most major metal building companies can provide retrofit systems that have been designed by a structural engineer. So don’t go it alone or do something “the way we always do it,” get an engineered plan for your roof, it adds very little cost and the peace of mind is priceless. A new standing seam roof should last 40 years or more, it is worth getting a proper design plus as a bonus many insurance companies will reduce your rates for compliance with the current codes. 

Original article source: Roof Hugger

Learn more about Roof Hugger in their Coffee Shop Directory or visit www.roofhugger.com.

About Roof Hugger

Roof Hugger, LLC, headquartered in Lutz, Florida, is the creator of the Roof Hugger sub-purlin system that provides the industry’s most effective way of installing a new metal roof over an existing metal roof. The system is structurally correct, non-disruptive and cost effective. It adds strength, is environmentally friendly, and conserves energy. Roof Hugger is a member company of the LSI Group, Inc. of Logansport, Indiana. For more information visit www.roofhugger.com



Recommended For You


Comments

There are currently no comments here.

Leave a Reply

Commenting is only accessible to RCS users.

Have an account? Login to leave a comment!


Sign In
Coffee Conversations - Banner Ad - Building a Community for Latino Roofers (sponsored by ABC Supply) on-demand
English
English
Español
Français

Sign Up for Our E-News!

Join over 18,000 other roofers who get the Week in Roofing for a recap of this week's best industry posts!

Sign Up
GCMC-Podcast-WinTraining-Sidebar-2
Owens Corning - Sidebar Ad - Roofers Choice Insurance
Bitec-RepairBoss-Sidebar
Maven Group SIdebar Ad
Polyglass - Sidebar - Polystick P - Oct 2024
Service First Solutions -Haz crecer tu servicio de techado- sidebear