Paul Reed and Eric Oberembt - Caught Doing Good with Roofers in Recovery - PODCAST TRANSCRIPTION

Editor's note: The following is the transcript of an live interview with Paul Reed and Eric Oberembt of Roofers in Recovery. You can read the interview below or listen to the podcast.

Speaker 1:
Welcome to Roofing Road Trips with Heidi. Explore the roofing industry through the eyes of a long term professional within the trade. Listen for insights, interviews, and exciting news in the roofing industry today.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Hello and welcome to another Roofing Road Trips from Roofer's Coffee Shop. This is Heidi Ellsworth and I am road tripping today right on over to Denver, Colorado to talk about something that I just have to tell you is pretty amazing. This is a topic of the heart and is going to be a conversation, a podcast, you're going to want to share with a lot of different people. So today I am with Eric Oberembt and Paul Reed with Roofers in Recovery. Gentlemen, welcome to the show.

Paul Reed:
Thank you, Heidi. Excited to be on today.

Heidi Ellsworth:
I am so excited to have you. I had the honor of meeting Paul and we both serve on the Western States board and we were able to sit down and really have a great conversation about this cause that is so important for the roofing industry, and that is helping roofers who have addictions get rehabilitation. And they're going to explain it so much better than I do. So, let's just dive in. So Paul, can you tell everybody what is Roofers in Recovery?

Paul Reed:
Thank you, Heidi. Really honored to be on here today. So Roofers in Recovery is 501C3 nonprofit that Eric and I and my wife Kimberly started a few years ago. The reason we did that, both Eric and I are in recovery from drug and alcohol addiction. I'm coming up on 15 years in August from a meth addiction. And I believe Eric is around 12 years Eric, 12 or 13.

Eric Oberembt:
Something like that.

Paul Reed:
Something like that, around there, from alcohol and cocaine. So we were kind of those blue collar roofers that kind of went down a wrong path and go out working every day doing roofs and went down a bad road and got addicted to drugs or alcohol. So really 15 years ago my journey started and I'd say about three years ago, Eric and I were on the phone one day and we were kind of talking about hey, we've done pretty well with our companies and we're sober now and what can we do to really give back to the industry? And so we came up with the idea that I would throw some money and Eric would throw some money and we'd pull it together and let's send one guy in the roofing industry to rehab and, that's where Roofers in Recovery started.

Paul Reed:
So that was the plan. And it went from trying to get one guy into rehab to us starting the foundation and getting a nonprofit, and to where it grew today to where last year we were able to send over 20 people to a drug or alcohol facility. And we just both really kind of have servant hearts and we both know that at some point in our recovery someone stepped out and gave us a hand and helped us and put us on the right path, and that's what we want to do. And as you know Heidi in our industry and worldwide just in general, but especially in our industry, there is a lot of problems with drug and alcohol. We always like to say it's okay if you drink, just a normal person, it's okay. We're not anti drinking or anti whatever we're here to help people that took it too far and now have a problem.

Heidi Ellsworth:
That is, I mean, it's inspirational. First of all, your story itself and then the giving back. You know what? I got so excited to get into this that I didn't even have you introduce yourself. So Paul, just real quick, you could let everybody know about your company too, your roofing company.

Paul Reed:
Yeah. I got excited too. I forgot to say who I was. So my name is Paul Reed. I'm one of the owners of Northwest Roofing and the Commercial Roofing Academy, based out of here in Denver. Roofed in multiple states across the country. I am celebrating my 29th year in roofing this year. So that's really all I know is roofing. But I love the industry and plan on being around another 29 years.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Love it. I'm going to be celebrating my 30th year next year in roofing so you and I are right on the same page.

Paul Reed:
We're right there.

Heidi Ellsworth:
I know. So Eric, first of all, introduce yourself and talk a little bit about your company, but then I would love for you to kind talk a little bit more, just adding on to what Paul said of how you guys started it, what your journey and what brought you to here.

Eric Oberembt:
Yep. So I'm Eric Oberembt I own D&M roofing. D&M roofing, we're based out of Omaha, Nebraska. I've been in the roofing space since I was literally about 10 years old. My grandfather started our company back in the '60s and I grew up with him so I was up on roofs as a little kid. So I guess I probably am around that same timeframe as well, because I'm 42 and I started when I was about 10. So I'm coming up on about 30 years being up on old tar and gravel roofs and doing that kind of fun stuff. So I also teach at the commercial roofing academy with Paul and that's a big passion of both of ours is teaching and coaching and helping everybody. I think it all kind of came from the helping with Roofers in Recovery and then we learned how much we like helping and educating and teaching and doing all those kind of things. And so it's really kind of morphed into, that's kind of our world now and it's kind of a neat progression to see.

Eric Oberembt:
But back to what Paul was talking about, about how we started. I got sober back in 2010 and I was about a year away from being kicked out of the company with my grandpa. He told me, after I got sober, he said, you had about a year left and I was going to have to boot out. And the gift that sobriety gave me and Paul, that gave us the opportunity to become who we are today when we had that phone call a few years back and said, hey, we got to figure out how to be able to give that gift to other people in the industry that want it and that need it. It really became something special. It dominates a lot of our time now, and we love that, but it definitely dominates a lot of our time now because we are so passionate about it. We want people to understand our passion and understand the impact that it has on families. And so, and I know we'll get into that here in a minute, but that's really what we're trying to do is help put families back together at the end of the day.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Well, I know... Go ahead, yes Paul.

Paul Reed:
I think another important part that we are really passionate about is trying to get rid of the stigma of addiction or alcoholism. A lot of people think like, oh my gosh, like, I'm just going to look away. The fact of the matter is, is literally everybody in the country is affected by some form of alcoholism or addiction. You know somebody, somebody that works for you, somebody in your family, one of your friends, maybe even you, but a lot of people and especially in our industry, yes I know there's a lot of women but I'm just saying there's a lot of alpha males, type A personalities, and a lot of people they want help but they don't know where to go and they're embarrassed and they're afraid that it's going to affect their business.

Paul Reed:
So we made a decision a few years ago to stand up and say, you know what? I am an addict. I am a meth addict and matter of fact, 15 years ago, I was in a mental hospital. Today I've recovered from that and today I get to be on cool things like this podcast and I get to run a successful company and I have my family back together. I get to be on the board for Western States roofing contractors and look, this is where I was. To steal a quote from a good friend of Eric's [inaudible 00:08:28]. If I can do it, you can do it, anybody can. And so that's the really, one of the messages we want to get out is like, hey, it's okay that you may be in this situation right now, because we were there at one point ourselves. And let us put you on the path and show you what we did and what's worked for millions of other people.

Heidi Ellsworth:
I have to say at the very beginning, when you introduced yourself and you just said I use meth, I've been clean for 15 years. That is so amazing because you're right a lot of people it's-

Heidi Ellsworth:
That is so amazing because you're right, there's so many hidden secrets and so many things that people don't talk about. The more we talk about this, the more people can get help and know it's okay. I love that, to get that help. I am wondering how do people find you? You said you sent 20 people last year, that's amazing. So maybe Eric, how are people finding you to get that help?

Eric Oberembt:
Yeah, I mean we're out there. We've got the website that you can always find us at roofersinrecovery.com, of course. One of the things that we're really proud of though is we have a Facebook group, obviously, we have a public and a private, and so if you are either A, looking to get into the program and learn a little bit, say you're in active addiction right now, or if you're sober and you want to be part of the group and of the network, we have a private Facebook group that you just search Roofers in Recovery, and it's got a little picture of a goofy looking guy. So it looks like a private group and not the public group.

Eric Oberembt:
And you fill out that form in there to get let in, in that group we've got over, I think, 500 people in that group right now that are all really, really good about supporting each other. And we have weekly Zoom meetings every Tuesday night at 8:00 central, and they're a recovery meeting every Tuesday night. And we get anywhere from 15 to 30 people every Tuesday on there for fellowship, and connection, and networking, and talking. And it's pretty amazing. Yes, we send people to treatment and we do all that, and that's the mission of the 501(c)(3), but at the end of the day it's about helping as many people as we can, and having that group to be able to do that really facilitates that.

Eric Oberembt:
And then when we go to conferences, we do everything that we can to then have meetings in the morning before the conferences start so that people that are at those conferences have somewhere to go and they feel comfortable, because they're watching everybody partying and they're scared maybe, or maybe they're not even going to go to the conference because they're like man, that's a trigger, and I don't know what to do, and whatever. And then all of a sudden oh, there's a Roofers in Recovery meeting at 7:00 AM before everything starts, and they get to come to that and hang out with 20, 30 people that are in the same position that they are. We started holding these recovery meetings before conferences, what, about three years ago, Paul? Probably two or three years ago.

Paul Reed:
Yep.

Eric Oberembt:
And there's people that came to some of those first meetings with us that weren't sober then, came to that meeting and are still sober today. There are some amazing stories from that, and we didn't do it, we just facilitated a place for people to be able to feel comfortable. And they did the work, but the fact that we were able to put this platform together to have somewhere that people can go to feel safe, I think that's probably what we're most proud of.

Paul Reed:
Yeah.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah, I mean safe and safe to have the conversation, because we all know how the trade shows are, everybody's out that night and stuff, and to have people who you can count on, it's amazing.

Paul Reed:
Yeah. It's important because I've been to those conferences before where there's literally been 5,000 people and I felt alone because everyone's having a great time, they're out partying all night, and I'm sitting in the hotel room alone. And so we've taken our experiences from being at things like that and made a place, we call it a community, we said here, we have this community of guys. Hey, we're successful business owners, or reps, or whatever in this roofing industry. And we have this community where you can come to, and be part of something, and be okay with that. And again, it just goes back to that stigma because we don't really just sit in the hotel rooms, we have a great time. Because we're sober, we have as good as time as anybody. And we want to show people hey, there is another way. Fine, if you don't have a problem with it, you're not a addict or alcoholic, go out, have fun with the industry, and do those things. But again, if you do, we're here for you.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Right. And having that conversation, I keep saying that, I know I keep coming back to that, but this is a recurring theme that I experienced throughout the industry on a lot of these different types of topics where it was just silence. People wouldn't talk about it. And they don't talk about mental health issues, they don't talk about addiction. We don't talk about these kind of things and so that's why I think having these [inaudible 00:14:01].

Eric Oberembt:
And they still don't like to, and I think that's one of the reasons that Paul and I have been very intentional about putting ourselves out there, and being very public, and showing that there doesn't have to be shame associated with it. Because when you're in the depths of it, you are, you're ashamed, and you're fearful, and you have all these different emotions that you're running with. But when people hide in the shadows with their sobriety and don't want to talk about it, and you're not getting the word out there that there is a solution and that there are people to talk to, we've got a pretty good network of people that know who we are at this point. And if we can use that platform to show people that it's okay, I'm glad you keep bringing that up because people are scared to talk about it, people are fearful to talk about it because they think that it's a weakness. And it's not, and that's not what it is, it's just asking for help is so hard.

Eric Oberembt:
I mean you can ask both Paul and I, I'm sure he'd probably say the same thing, but the hardest thing for me to ever do in my life is to ask for help, then and still now. I mean I'm an alpha male roofer, or roofing somebody, I don't want to ask anybody for help. I'll figure it out. We're all figure-it-outers. And that was what I wanted to do in my addiction as well is I'll figure it out. I'll drink on Saturdays or I'll do coke on Sundays. I mean we all made up these little stories of how we could fix it ourselves and it finally got to a point where we all hit that bottom everybody talks about, but you hit a certain point and you can't. And that's when we're here is when you finally hit that spot where you're sick and tired of being sick and tired, call Paul and Eric because we can put you in the right direction and connect you with some people that can help you get to where you want to go.

Heidi Ellsworth:
And I want to make sure we don't pass this too far because you brought up families and how important this is to the families. Because I'm really excited to get to what you're doing now and all of the different initiatives, but before we do that, just maybe share some of the stories you've heard from yourselves, and other roofing contractors, and roofing professionals on what a difference has made for them, their career, and their family.

Paul Reed:
Yeah. My favorite story, I will say our success story was we had a gentleman about, it's coming up right on a year actually. About a year. His wife actually reached out to me to begin with.

Eric Oberembt:
It happens a lot.

Paul Reed:
Yeah. Thing about addiction is just because your wife, or your kids, or your parents wants you to get sober, you're not going to get sober because someone else wants it for you, you have to want it for yourself. And so she had called and asked, "Hey, will you talk to my husband?" And I said, "Yeah, absolutely." So we got on the phone with him, and he did have a desire to quit and get some help. And so we actually put him into rehab, and he stayed there, and got out, and started working the program, and he's coming up on a year of sobriety. But the thing that really caught my eye was about a month or so after he got out of rehab and this couple, they have, I believe, two kids. They look four and six, small kids. But on Facebook, I looked at his wife one day and she posted a picture, and she was just beaming from ear to ear, her smile. It was unbelievable. And I went back on her profile and I looked through the last year or two before he had went into treatment, and she was-

Paul Reed:
... year or two before he had went into treatment. And you could literally see the wear and tear and the worry and the fear on his wife of what he was putting her through.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah.

Paul Reed:
And then looking at the pictures that they had. Actually, I'm getting chills telling you the story-

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah.

Paul Reed:
... because it was such a cool experience. And just seeing the difference it made in the wife and the kids because the man was 60 day sober at this point. But to see that transformation of his wife, beautiful woman, right?

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah.

Paul Reed:
Beautiful woman. Beautiful family. And she just had that look. And then I've been friends with her over Facebook for years, but I didn't really notice. But when you seen her just literally shining, going, "Oh my gosh, we get to have a family."

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah.

Paul Reed:
We could truly have a family now. I think at that point I was like we're doing something right now. I mean, because worst case scenario, there's one family that like it's literally put back together.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah.

Paul Reed:
And I think that was just one of the biggest blessings I've ever experienced in my life, was being able to witness just off of Facebook pictures.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah.

Paul Reed:
Yeah.

Heidi Ellsworth:
I'm just like, wow, I love that story. And when it's happening, people don't even realize. Like you said, she just started looking sadder and sadder and fearful and everything. And it's just like this slide. And then to have that happen. Oh. I have chills now too.

Paul Reed:
I think she just thought that was just what life was. You just wake up and hope that he's not in jail or got a car wreck, or overdose. This is how life is and you just deal with it. But again our point to the whole thing is to show people there is another way. And if I could do it, you could do it. Anybody can.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah. Yeah. I love that. So, okay. So 20 last year. And you're on a big push right now. In fact, you have a really great initiative. I know that you want to put out there to all roofing companies. So Eric, maybe you can kind of tell us about what you're doing to help raise funds and awareness.

Eric Oberembt:
Yeah. Absolutely.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Send to rehab.

Eric Oberembt:
Yeah, you bet. So our big initiative this year, we do a couple different events through the year. We have a golf tournament later in the year. And then Hail Trace helps us out. And does a go-kart race thing for us to raise funds and people can come to that. We're going to have a gala at the end of the year as well. But our biggest initiative, that's going to be the biggest chunk of our fundraising for every year moving forward. This is going to be our first annual, but it's roofers in recovery day.

Eric Oberembt:
And we designated that June 3rd is going to be roofers in recovery day. And our goal was to get 150 contractors signed up throughout the country to commit to build a roof on June 3rd. And with that roof, you donate just the profits of that roof. So not the entire roof. So if it's a $10,000 roof, $3,500 donation. But you build it, then you document it as well. Get a lot of videos and pictures and all that kind of stuff, because we're also filming a documentary, a full length documentary-

Heidi Ellsworth:
Wow.

Eric Oberembt:
... on roofers and recovery. And so we want to be able to take some of that content and put it into the documentary. And then we've drafted some public relations, whatever the things you sent.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah. PR. Press releases. Yeah.

Eric Oberembt:
And so we've drafted some of those and we're going to get those out and get those to the contractors, so they can get them to their local media outlets. And trying to get some coverage on it, obviously as well for them to help them out. But if we get to that 150 level, I think we're at 70 or 80 right now. If we get to that 150 level, that's going to give us the ability to raise about three quarters of the funds that we need, to be able to reach our goal of being able to send 50 people to treatment.

Heidi Ellsworth:
So you did 20 last year, but you want to do 50 this year?

Eric Oberembt:
Yeah. Yep.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Wow!

Eric Oberembt:
That's our goal. That's what we want to do.

Paul Reed:
And the reality is there're probably a couple thousand people that need to go.

Eric Oberembt:
Right.

Paul Reed:
... Or whatever, but-

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah.

Paul Reed:
So we're just chipping away.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah.

Eric Oberembt:
Yep.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Wow. So, okay. The contractors who have already signed up the 70 to 80 that you already have, what's some of the feedback? I mean, is there just like all this excitement going on with them?

Eric Oberembt:
Yeah. I mean, people are excited. We signed a lot of them up at different trade shows that we attended and things like that. We've got a lot of good support. Paul's talked about this before, but one of the things that we found out was is that we think everyone knows who we are. And it's a little bit of an ego thing, but like we run around in kind of the same circles. And we think that everybody knows, like we're shocked when we meet somebody and we're like, "Do you know what Roofers in Recovery is?" And they're like, "No, I haven't heard of it." We're like, "How is that even possible?"

Eric Oberembt:
So we're excited to be getting to some different niches in the country to be able to get our mission out there. So that they understand, because we don't realize how many little corners of the country there are, that don't run in the same storm restoration spaces or the same trade shows that we go to.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Right.

Eric Oberembt:
And don't follow us all on Facebook and Instagram and all that kind of stuff. And so this opportunity is really huge for us and it's why we appreciate it so much, because it's going to give us an opportunity to share what we're doing with such a larger group of people. So that hopefully they'll understand our passion and want be part of it.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Right. Well, and I mean, when Paul and I talked at Western States, I had heard, I knew your organization.

Eric Oberembt:
Oh good.

Heidi Ellsworth:
But we've never met.

Eric Oberembt:
That makes me feel better.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah, I know. I had. Hopefully you'd heard a Roofer's Coffee Shop too.

Eric Oberembt:
Oh yeah.

Heidi Ellsworth:
We run into the same thing. It's like, "Oh, everybody has to know us. No, no, we're still getting out there."

Eric Oberembt:
Right.

Heidi Ellsworth:
But the thing is that I love getting involved with these associations too. Just like you said, the more associations that understand what you're doing the more than they are going to refer. I mean, it's just such a great circle of funding and references and referrals to help those thousands of people. There're so many more. Right?

Paul Reed:
Yeah. And I want to throw out one thing, I think it's very important is our give back rate is about 98%. We have a real small kind of admin.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah.

Paul Reed:
So we're not like a lot of these charities, that their give back rate on the money they collect is 40, 50%. Our give back rate is 98%, so I mean, it-

Heidi Ellsworth:
That's awesome.

Paul Reed:
... costs a lot to send people to rehab. And we're not taking salaries and we're not buying expensive dinners, or flying all over the country.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah.

Paul Reed:
It's on our dime. And I think, our intention is to give, give, give. And it's a nonprofit.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Right.

Paul Reed:
And we want it to always be a true nonprofit. So the only thing that anybody does to help us, it's going to give back to guys and gals that are in need. And to literally to qualify for our program, the most important thing is one, you have to be willing to want to get sober. Not because wife or mom or dad, or husband wants you to, you yourself have to be willing.

Paul Reed:
And number two, you just have to be in the roofing industry.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah.

Paul Reed:
From supplier, manufacturer, to an installer, to the lady that works at the front desk at the office. If you are in the roofing industry, we are here to help. It doesn't have to be a sales rep or an owner or anything like that. Just you are in the roofing space.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah. Yeah. Well-

Paul Reed:
Even the Roofing Coffee Shop Magazine-

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yes. Yes.

Paul Reed:
... you are qualified.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Well, that's good. I mean, that's exactly it. Those are the type of things maybe-

Eric Oberembt:
In case you pick up a quick meth addiction, like over the weekend.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah.

Eric Oberembt:
Like we'll help you out.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Well, I'm in-

Eric Oberembt:
Just in case that happens. Just let us know.

Heidi Ellsworth:
I know I'm in roofing, so we're halfway there. And I know I do have a glass of wine now and then so. But I do think putting that out there and I like what you're doing on involving the contractors, but you got to tell me more about this documentary. I mean, this is the first I've heard about a documentary. That's awesome.

Eric Oberembt:
So we were very, very fortunate. I have a full time videographer on staff for me and my company and for my podcast. And we got to talking and she actually went to school to make documentaries.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Wow.

Eric Oberembt:
That was like what she studied. And I don't know anything about it, obviously. Right? And so we were talking and it turns out that she had family members that were kind of in recovery as well. And so all of a sudden this was like a passion topic for her also. And she brought up the idea of like, "Hey, why don't we film a documentary on Roofers in Recovery?" And I'm like, "Hey, why don't we?" And so we started touring the country. We went out to Denver-

Eric Oberembt:
Tour in the country. We went out to Denver and filmed and met with Paul's old counselor from when he was in rehab. 15 years ago, we drove out to where I went to rehab about four hours from where I'm at. And we interviewed the program director and the counselor out there. We interviewed some people that we've put through the program. One of them being the person that Paul was talking about earlier. We've talked to numerous people there. And then we actually, our last client that we sent to treatment, we actually followed him from when we picked him up at the airport. While he was at rehab, we had him actually doing daily journal entries-

Heidi Ellsworth:
Wow.

Eric Oberembt:
... video entries. And then we filmed him afterwards and he's actually in a sober living community right now. And he's doing some other post videos that we're going to put in.

Eric Oberembt:
We're flying out to ... And we're doing all of this on our own dime, right? We don't have any money. We're spending all of our money on sending people to treatment, right? Not on this. And so then we're also going out to California and we've got some really neat connections out there to be able to talk to a broader scale, to talk about sobriety in general and not just in the roofing space and to be able to tell a story of how people can get help regardless of the community and the industry that they're in.

Eric Oberembt:
Obviously, we have to have our lane, but we want everybody that's watching it to be part of that. So our hope is that we're going to have a small portion of it done by September for the gala that we're going to be doing. And then hopefully by the end of the year, be able to release the full thing. And then Lexi who's, my videographer is actually going to, we're going to enter it into film festivals and [inaudible 00:28:45]-

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yes.

Eric Oberembt:
... stuff. So yeah, we're really excited about it. It's going to be fun.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Okay. So we're on the Oscars. I'm thinking. Yes.

Eric Oberembt:
So it's funny. We were driving and she was literally researching which film festivals you have to enter to be Oscar eligible.

Heidi Ellsworth:
I love it. I love it.

Eric Oberembt:
She's got awesome high aspirations for this. So I'm excited.

Paul Reed:
I'm hoping for Matt Damon to play my role, this is who I'm rooting for.

Eric Oberembt:
Yes.

Heidi Ellsworth:
I love it.

Paul Reed:
He was really good in Good Will Hunting.

Eric Oberembt:
Does that mean I have to be Ben Affleck?

Paul Reed:
Yeah. Yeah.

Heidi Ellsworth:
I see some resemblances here. For all you listening, you can't see, but I'm telling you there's some resemblance.

Paul Reed:
There we go.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Well. Okay. That's great. And the gala is in September. And where is that going to be located?

Paul Reed:
Denver.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Denver. Okay.

Paul Reed:
It'll be Denver. Yeah. At Mile High Stadium, we're waiting on the dates, still waiting for the NFL to release their schedule so we could lock in the date. Soon as they have that, we'll get that announced. And we're excited for that. It'll be a really good time and just really a good showcase of success stories because that's what it's all about because you are going through something right now. Doesn't mean you have to live the rest of your life that way.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Right.

Paul Reed:
And so we're excited to show these deals and really just kind of offer courage, strength and hope. That's what it's about is those three things is being able to show courage, strength, and hope of, no matter where you're at today, you can get out of it. We could start digging and get back up.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Make change. Yeah. Wow. I have to say, this is just one of the most inspirational podcasts. When I said that at the beginning, I wasn't kidding. This is exactly what we need to get out there. We need to share.

Heidi Ellsworth:
So just for everyone listening, Roofers In Recovery does have a full directory on Roofer's Coffee Shop. We are going to be ... All of these events, all of the documentary, all the press releases, everything is being published throughout the site. And we just want to continue to do our part for Roofers In Recovery to allow them to get this word out. That's the most important.

Heidi Ellsworth:
I have to tell you guys, you have a great website. Kim does an amazing job. Everything we've seen, you guys are just, you got it so dialed in. How can people, let's just go down tactical, how do they sign up to do the Roofers in Recovery day? How do they get more involved? Did they even want to do straight donations? How do they do that?

Eric Oberembt:
So you can do straight donations, right on the website at roofersinrecovery.com. There's a link that says, "Donate now." You can donate right there. We've got a webpage or a Google form that we will obviously give to you if we haven't already. So it can be posted somewhere and .., Excuse me. Where you can just ... All you do is fill out your information on it and we'll have it into our list. And then here in the next week, or so we're going to be sending out details on how to get the press releases and how to make the donation after you build it and how to document it and all that kind of stuff so that we can build them all on June 3rd.

Eric Oberembt:
And so we'll get that out to you. And we'll have it all over social media as well. And one thing we haven't done, but maybe Paul, we can talk to Kim and see if they can embed that link into the website as well. So they can sign up there. We can get with Kim-

Paul Reed:
Right.

Eric Oberembt:
... and see if we can do that. So yeah. And again, you can go to our Facebook page as well. If all of that is too much, call me or Paul.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Yeah.

Eric Oberembt:
So like we're on the website.

Heidi Ellsworth:
And all their information is on the directory in Roofers Coffee Shop. So you can find it. There's a million different ways to find it. For people who have referrals or who themselves want to talk to you about getting on part of the program, how do they? Also on the website, or the Facebook group, or both?

Paul Reed:
Yeah, same exact way. So, personally reach out and call us. Our phone numbers are all over. You can get on the website. There is a help now link that you could follow. Put in your information. We'll get right back to you soon as possible. However, you could reach, find Eric or the website.

Paul Reed:
I do want to mention that the website is www.roofersinrecovery.com. Someone had hijacked our link about a year ago and was trying to make us pay. We finally kind of got it back. So it is also dot org. So it goes in, if something happens on dot com. It's been an absolute nightmare.

Eric Oberembt:
But right now, they're both working. Right?

Paul Reed:
I think they're both working, but just in case, look at dot org as well. But yeah. They were trying to grease us for-

Heidi Ellsworth:
I wish people would get a life-

Paul Reed:
Oh my gosh.

Heidi Ellsworth:
... in that kind of stuff. Geez, Louise. Sorry. That's little side note. I'm like, "Come on." There's so many good things like what you're doing. And then people come in and take advantage. It's just nuts.

Paul Reed:
Yeah.

Eric Oberembt:
Right. It is working. Right.

Paul Reed:
Okay.

Heidi Ellsworth:
It is working. Okay. Good. Okay. For everyone out there, this is the first of many conversations we're going to have on this. I'm going to be inviting Eric and Paul back. In fact, right now, you guys don't even know this, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to ask you if you would do a coffee conversation in the fall. So we're going to keep this topic. This is the first annual Roofers In Recovery day. So this is going to go on and on and on and help a lot of people. So I hope everybody gets involved. Eric and Paul, thank you so much for being on Roofing Road Tips today.

Eric Oberembt:
Thank you.

Paul Reed:
Thank you, Heidi.

Heidi Ellsworth:
Really a great, great day. And thank you all for listening. These are the type of information that we try to bring all the time through our Roofing Road Trip podcast. You can find all the Roofing Road Trip podcast and our RLW navigation on rooferscoffeeshop.com, or of course, on your favorite podcast channel. Be sure to subscribe and get notifications so you don't miss a single one. And we'll see you next time on Roofing Road Trips.

Speaker 1:
Make sure to subscribe to our channel and leave a review. Thanks for listening. This has been Roofing Road Trips with Heidi from the rooferscoffeeshop.com.